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July 20, 2010

Question for you

When you are in conflict with Christians you are not supposed to tithe until you work it out, right?
What do you do when you have tried and tried and you CAN'T work it out? I am not the offender, so it isn't a matter of me humbling myself and just apologizing and making it right. I can't get the offenders to see the truth, and I am done with trying. But what do we do about tithing when the offense still stands?
For that matter, our former pastor preaches that you shouldn't have communion while someone has a problem with you, either. I can't find that Biblically, and the offenders don't have a problem with taking communion during this either.

Anyway, at what point do you start tithing again?

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michelle said...

I have never heard tell of either thing and can't off-hand recall anything I have read in the Bible pertaining to those situations either. Hmmm??? I will be very interested to read what others have to say about this. Is there a place in the Bible that says you should not tithe when there is a problem?

Teri said...

I have not ever heard of not tithing. That is an act of obedience/love towards the one who gave you everything.

However, I would not commune where there is unforgiveness within the body. If you are the offender, you should seek restoration. Once you have sought it in righteousness, commune. If they are the offender, be sure you have forgiven, then commune. You should have a clean heart before the throne when you commune.

Qtpies7 said...

The Bible says that if your brother has something against you that you are to set aside your offering and go to them and make amends.
I can't find the same thing about communion, though.
Matthew 5: 23"Therefore, if you are offering your gift at the altar and there remember that your brother has something against you, 24leave your gift there in front of the altar. First go and be reconciled to your brother; then come and offer your gift.

Gary Arnold said...

Church leaders ignore God's definition of His tithe (Leviticus 27:30-33), and ignore God's ordinances for His tithe (Numbers 18). They change the words to fit their pocketbook. This is nothing but manipulation of God's Word. They are false teachers.

The Bible CLEARLY SHOWS that the tithe ENDED at the cross in the Book of Hebrews. In the first nine verses of Hebrews 7 the words tenth or tithes appears SEVEN TIMES. The ONLY place in the Bible, after Calvary, that tithing appears is in Hebrews 7.

In Hebrews 7:5 we are told that Levi (the Levites) took the tithes under the law. In Hebrews 7:12 we are told that when the priesthood changes, the law will change. Hebrews 7:18 is telling us that Numbers 18 was disannulled. Numbers 18 established the Levitical priesthood, and part of that establishing included tithing. When the Levitical priesthood ended (at Calvary, or at least in the year 70AD when the temple was destroyed), all laws that established that priesthood were canceled. If Numbers 18 wasn't canceled, we would still be under the Levitical priesthood.

Those who argue they didn't have money or income then really need to study the scriptures. They had money and wages, even in Genesis. The farmers had income from barter exchanges, and they had markets to buy and sell as proven in Deuteronomy 14:24-26.

Those who argue Malachi 3:8, robbing God, need to start with verse 7. God is talking about His ordinances in Numbers 18 which we learned were disannulled according to Hebrews 7:18. Also, if you start with Malachi 1, you will see that God is speaking to the priests, not the people. The priests robbed God of the tithe (Nehemiah 13) and the priests robbed God of the offerings (Malachi 1).

The New Testament teaches generous, sacrificial giving, from the heart, according to our means.

Lisa said...

Gezz now I am all confused on tithing....

Oldqueen44 said...

There is a point when you kick the dust from your feet and move on. God knows the heart and intentions of all parties. If you feel you are acting in love and are in God's will with trying to restore relationships you should probably go back to "tithing"
Gary had some interesting perspectives and some churches teach that way.
I like the idea of tithing and the blessings that go along with it.
Even if it is called sacrificial giving, it is still giving. I think God set a lot of standards to live by in the Old Testament.